Well Designed: A Human Design Podcast

Kyle Wood: I get stressed about my stress.

She's just like, I'm stressed, and
then she'll like go do yoga or go do

a record or go surfing or like, you
know, do something to process it.

I'll be like, I'm stressed that
I'm stressed this, I'm so stressed.

Yes.

I tell everyone that I'm stressed,
you know, like when I'm like really

in that like shadow is of that.

Brandi Healy: welcome.

I'm Brady Healy.

This is the Well-Designed podcast,
and I'm kicking it off this week.

I will be hosting and kind of taking the
reins to read my co-host Kyle's chart.

So if you listen to our last episode as
a fun way to introduce ourselves, we're

introducing each other and we're doing
that through the lens of human design.

So today I'm gonna be giving Kyle A.

Little mini reading here.

So how are you feeling about that?

Kyle Wood: I'm really excited.

I, I really enjoy people reading
my chart because, It's about me.

It's, you know, it's like someone,
it's like having a conversation

with someone where they like ask you
really good questions and they're,

they're asking you about yourself.

People like talking about themselves.

Um, and I like hearing about myself.

So, uh, yeah, I'm excited and, and in like
a less jokey note, it's always helpful.

Even though I've been doing this for
a while, it's always helpful to hear.

Other people's perspectives, cuz
sometimes it can help things click

in my mind of like, oh, like I hadn't
thought about it that way, or, or,

that's a little part of my design.

I forgot.

That's really relevant to like
what I'm going through right now.

So, uh,

Brandi Healy: yes.

Yeah.

And as a fellow projector,
we love recognition.

Yeah.

And we, we also love to feel
like other people see us.

And I, I can say for my own experience,
I, I can relate very similarly, is when

I have someone else look at my chart,
it just is that resonance of like, ugh.

This person can, this, they
get me like, yes, yeah, this

is, this feels really good.

So I can absolutely relate to that.

So, you know, like I just mentioned,
starting, kind of starting from

the top, Kyle is also a projector,
as am I, but different from.

My type of being a
projector, I should say.

Um, Kyle is a splenic projector,
so his authority is based from his

spleen, which is he tunes into his
intuition to make decisions, whereas

mine is an emotional authority.

I wait for clarity to make decisions.

Yeah, so when we frame it up in
terms of our type, our type is our

overarching, you know, theme in
terms of how we use our energy best.

And with projectors we have
that energy that ebbs and flows.

We tend to be teachers, leaders,
guides, you know, we really.

Enjoy kind of leading groups of
people and our gift is in our

perspective versus how much that we do.

So when you first learned about your
human design type and read about being

a projector, how did that make you feel?

Kyle Wood: Oh, it was good.

It was so good.

I mean, I'd already done like a lot.

I can imagine if I had
read about it, like.

10 years ago, I may have been a bit
resistant to it, but because I had done a

lot of work and experienced some really,
like similar to you, like some really bad

burnout, it was like, uh, yeah, that was
because I was trying to like keep up with

my generator colleagues and friends, so,
Um, and, and so I'd already done a lot of

experimenting with like working less and
noticing that like when I worked less,

my efficiency like increased a lot and,
um, probably still didn't do a good job

with like resting as much as I should.

I think that's a challenge for
projectors, especially when you have kids.

So that changed a lot.

Like before having kids, I
could just take a day off.

Uh, whereas now my work schedule
needs to be a bit more rigid because

Brandi Healy: there are
no days off in parenting.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

And like there's, there's three
other people's schedules that

I need to, like, think about.

So, Uh, I can't just be like,
oh, I'm gonna take today off and

then tomorrow I'm gonna like do a
week's worth of work in one day.

Um mm-hmm.

Because I can't just like bail and be
absent from the family that willy-nilly

when they're, when they're older and
they don't want anything to do with me.

I'm sure it'll be fine, but at this stage
with, uh, with little ones, uh, yeah.

And you know, like, yeah.

So there's that.

And then you also mentioned
my splenic authority.

That was also something I think I
would've been really resistant to

years ago because they talk about,
you know, it's about your intuitive

knowing, which I also like for men.

I like, you know, talking about
instinct as well, because that feels

a bit more, bit more masculine.

Masculine.

Right.

And that, and that would've
been a big part of it.

Like I, years ago, I.

You know, growing up as a, as a man,
you are kind of like no one's telling

you to trust, like your intuition.

There might be some stuff around
like instinct, but no one's being

like, I just trust your intuition.

Like, cuz it seems, yeah, that seems like
a very like feminine type energy mm-hmm.

Type thing.

But I had been experimenting with that.

I noticed in my wife, who it turns out
she's splenic as well, that she was very

like intuitive and made a lot of her
decisions from this intuitive place.

And I, when we first started dating,
was making all my decisions from a very

like planned out, methodical place cuz
that's what I like learned from my father.

Brandi Healy: I think that there were
also parts of your chart that probably

lend themselves to a little bit of that,
which we'll go into here in a, in a bit.

But yeah, that splenic authority
is, you know, the capacity to

make decisions in the moment
based off of that intuit knowing.

And so it's so interesting to hear
you use that language cuz I have

a 13 year old splenic projector,
so I'm like, hmm, maybe that.

Instinct is a word that might come up
a little bit more in our house as well.

So that's, that's super useful.

So has, now that you've been experimenting
this with this for a while, do you

have a better sense for yourself what
that intuitive hit feels like for you?

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Um, it, it was definitely helpful
to like, think back on times in

my life when I had maybe listened
to it without, um, Realizing.

Mm-hmm.

So it was helpful to think about some of
the sort of bigger life changes I'd made

and like where did that come from with,
with like sort of these weird decisions

that I made that didn't make sense.

Um mm-hmm.

Where that come from?

What did that feel like at the time?

Why did I know it should really
look really trust in that?

And that is for me, I think I.

The difference between a splenic hit
and say just feeling scared about

something and so not wanting to do
something or something like that.

It's like a splenic hit.

Like I know deep down there's still a
little voice in the back of the mind

that's like, you know, you should do this.

Whereas when it's from like
fear or something like that,

that voice isn't there.

Right.

So it is like there is like a
little part of me that that knows.

When I get that hit, um, yeah, that,
that, yeah, this is, this is it.

And if I don't get that hit, then
I, then I know it's not the right

time, so I can just leave it.

Brandi Healy: And, you know,
one of the things that.

I found useful in conversations with
my son, and I don't know if you find

this in how you use your own authority,
but it's like when you find yourself

in the place to try to convince
yourself logically why or why not.

Pretty much a telltale sign.

It's not your intuition or your instinct
that's doing the decision making.

It's using your head instead
of using that inner knowing.

Yeah.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

And while I'm in that state of
like, trying to use my mind, whether

that's like making pros and cons
lists, like, you know, mm-hmm.

Whatever, it's, I won't be
able to hear that voice.

And often it's been when I let go of
that, let go of the shoulds, recognize

that I'm trying to force this decision.

And just like really let go of like that.

It could go either way,
that it could be anything.

And then it's really funny how quickly
after that I'll get an intuitive hit

of like what the right answer is once I
let go of what I think I should be doing

or what I think is the right answer.

Brandi Healy: And you know, I've
known you for a bit now and it's

been so cool to really see that.

In action with you a few times where
I've seen you try sit there and kind

of try to make logical sense of things
and watch you let that go and like the

next day you're like, I know what to do.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

There's some other parts of my design
that I'm sure you look at that play into

that, that my wife hates, but you know.

We have to be who we are.

Brandi Healy: Well, I'm with Zoe.

I tease you a bit on that same one.

If I, if I, if I, if I'm
thinking about the same thing.

I think I know, but I don't have with you.

So I think that I,

so one of the other things that you
had mentioned is, You know about

being a projector and struggling
to find that time for rest.

You know, you and I both share
this in our chart where we're

what's called energy projectors.

We have a motor center that is
defined, so we both have a defined

ego, and your ego connects.

Not only to your spleen, it
connects, you know, your willpower

is connected to your intuition.

So when you get that intuitive knowing,
you have that willpower to get it done,

but it's also connected to your identity.

So, you know.

Is it something that you can find or
notice and catch yourself in when you're

trying to operate like a generator or a
manifesting generator, or is it something

that can kind of get away from you?

Kyle Wood: I think it's something I, I get
better at because, you know, the fatigue

catches up pretty quickly if I'm not
resting, so it's like, oh, why am I tired?

It's like, okay, maybe I've.

Taken on too many things here.

Probably haven't listened to
my authority around something.

Um, and I'm doing things in that
head space again, but, and I,

and I feel like I'm good at doing
restorative activities like.

Gardening or having a bath
or something like that.

But often there's still an activity.

Yes.

And sometimes I've noticed as a projector,
the quickest way for me to get to get my

energy back is to literally do nothing
like lay down horizontal on the bed.

Even just for 20 minutes with
my eyes closed can give me so

much more energy than, yeah.

Trying to do a, a restful activity.

Brandi Healy: So, and when you
first started experimenting with

that rest, did it come easy?

Did you struggle with it?

Do you still struggle with it?

Kyle Wood: It came difficult, like hard
because, um, because yes, small kids,

when I, when I started discovering this
stuff, but it also explained a lot because

my, like capacity for doing things,
especially around running my own business.

Really changed after having kids.

And I couldn't work it out because all,
all these other dads were like, oh man.

After I had kids, I started
earning so much more money.

Like, you know, I started, you know,
like I had all the success and I'm like,

I do not feel successful right now.

I feel like exhausted all the time.

I'm struggling to like be creative and
think creatively, which you know, is so

important when you run your own business.

And yeah, it was, it was, it was hard.

So it's, it's still a, like a work in
progress and sometimes, you know, you can

only, your day is not maybe as restful
as you would like, but I can just try and

find those moments and luckily have a, an
understanding wife too, so we can like,

try and do that for each other as well.

Brandi Healy: Yeah, I think you know,
when you talked about success, that's

the projector signature, right?

When we're in alignment,
we feel successful.

When we're out of alignment,
that's where that bitterness

shows up, and it's like that.

When that happens, that's just like
an invitation for us to check in

and something that I really respect
about you and the way that you work.

Like there are many things, but just
that really open communication that you

have with your partner around what you
both are energetically available for.

And just like you said, you kind
of rely on each other of like,

I need that lie down right now.

And it's like, I got you.

And kind of vice versa.

So you both create a lot
of space for each other.

To operate your own businesses, to
care for your girls as well as to like

unplug, because you both really realize
how valuable that is to both of you as

individuals, but in order for you to
show up in your partnership as parents as

well, and it's like you're pretty rigid
with your business as well in terms of

like, these are the days that I work.

Yeah.

And the other days I don't.

Yeah.

And like that's that, which I
think How easy was that for you to

Kyle Wood: do?

Meant, like I said, I've
been experimenting with it

for many years, since 2016.

Yeah.

Is when I started experimenting
with like, having really

strong boundaries around work.

Um, because.

Yeah, running your own business,
the to-do list never ends.

So you've gotta set
that, that for yourself.

And I do find something that I give myself
more permission for now than that, than I

used to, is that that schedule can change.

Like when it's not working
anymore, it can change.

And I used to be like feeling
like I always had to like hack

the perfect day, perfect schedule.

And now I realize something will
work for a while and then it's

okay that's not working anymore.

Time to like rejig things
and, and try something new.

And I think that's good cuz
that still lets my, probably

my like splenic authority.

Yeah.

Still have a bit of play space.

Uh, whereas.

Obviously when you're, if I get
like a, a splenic hit outside of

work hours, it can be difficult.

So I do try and keep like notepads
and bits of paper around the

place to write things down.

That's something I've been
experimenting over the last few

months, um, with doing, and that's
actually really, really helpful.

That's awesome.

Brandi Healy: So, you know, it's
interesting like when we look at someone's

chart, you know, one of the pieces that we
typically will speak to is open centers.

And one of the things that I love
about talking about open centers

is like with open, when your center
is white or it's not shaded in,

it's either open or undefined.

And that is where we're sensitive.

But it's also where we're here to like,
Learn the lessons in life and I find

that these can be so, so powerful.

And what's so interesting about
your chart is that you have an

undefined throat center and here
we are doing a podcast together.

So that's been one that's been so fun.

In working together to play with in
terms of I have a defined throat.

Your throat is open, and figuring out a
way to work together, not only in this

podcast, but you know, in the stuff
that we do to prepare for it of like

a way that honors that for both of us.

So, you know, with the open throat,
like you're designed to not.

Overthink what you're going to say
before you say it, and really wait for

that right moment to use your authority
to really feel compelled to share.

And one of your gifts is like being able
to give others the tools to find their

own voice, which I think is so, so, so
cool when it comes to hosting a podcast.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Well, and that, that part because my, I
know we're talking about something that we

haven't covered yet, but because my split
of my design is over my throat mm-hmm.

As well, so it shows up even
bigger in in, that's been really

helpful to understand that Yeah.

I'm here to help people
communicate and to Yeah.

Find their own voice and.

It made a lot of sense cuz it's
like, yeah, that's something I do

already without even realizing it.

So just putting the words to that of
like, oh, that's actually something

really valuable I offer people.

And how, how can I,
how can I do that more?

Brandi Healy: And it's, what's so
cool is like you built your business

around that without even knowing that.

Yeah.

It's like you built an entire platform
to help trainers find their own voice

in their work by experimenting with the
work of others, which is so, so cool.

And like since you brought it
up, like we could talk a little

bit about your definition.

It's.

It's collaborative,
which is similar to mine.

So it's like we find, you know, when
we're stuck or feeling resistance,

that being around other people can
really get those juices flowing.

And where you're split, so you have
a defined head, a defined mind, and

you kind of spoke to it earlier.

You have that channel that, it's called
Clarity and it's like, That gift is

meant to help others find clarity.

Usually it's not to find clarity for
yourself and sometimes when it can get a

bit hairy is, you know, feeling confused.

And you know, I think you spoke
to it when you were talking about

your authority is like when you're
making those pros and cons lists.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's kinda and.

Feeling really overwhelmed
and confused by those.

It's like when you can kind of drop
those and let those go, it gives you that

ability to really tap into your intuition.

But that clarity channel is
something that I see you do in your

work with your clients in terms of
helping them find clarity in their

businesses and in their work as
trainers, which is also super cool.

Kyle Wood: But it's hard because
you have to go through the confusion

part first, which, you know, makes
a fun hero's journey afterwards.

But in the moment, getting comfortable
with that sense of confusion, that

sense of uncertainty, that, that's
actually something I'm trying

to work on more at the moment.

But, you know, there's so much your
design you can work on at any one

time, but that's, oh yeah, for sure.

Yeah, that's one area.

Um, haven't really done a lot with my.

My mind and my head centers.

So that, yeah.

That's been sort of
interesting to play with.

Brandi Healy: Are you starting
to identify when you're in those

moments of confusion, or do you sit
there longer than you would like to?

Kyle Wood: I, I think having done
this stuff, I'm, I, I'm identifying

it faster, um, And, you know,
it's always helpful to reflect.

So after that, like recent one
I went through, it's like, oh

yeah, that's what was going on.

So yeah, I think with practice and
just that reflection that I'll get

better at that and then I'll be able
to just trust that process, um, rather

than getting really stressed about it.

Brandi Healy: Yeah, it's kind of
like yoga, it's like finding that.

Space and the discomfort mm-hmm.

Of when you try like a challenging
pose and it's like knowing

like it doesn't last forever.

Kyle Wood: I hated that when
the yoga teacher would do that.

I would say that just trust.

Trust the discomfort.

I be, you'd be so

Brandi Healy: miserable in my class.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

You'd be, you would've hate my

Kyle Wood: guts.

Yeah.

That's why I think it's why I got into
like, strength training for exercise,

because it's like, until I find like I'm

Brandi Healy: in my head,
I'm in my head already.

Yeah, yeah.

Like in my head already.

We don't need

Kyle Wood: to hang out here anymore.

Yeah.

That's, that's, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Brandi Healy: So good.

Um, a couple of other things about
your undefined centers is you have

an open emotional center, which makes
you deeply empathic and, you know,

have that ability to really feel the
feelings of, of those around you.

And, you know, one of your gifts is
helping people connect to their emotions.

Is that something that you.

Have noticed or noticed more
now that you're aware of it?

Kyle Wood: No, I think that's always
shown up, um, in my design and you

can even trace it back to like, you
know, adolescence is such a formative

time on our personalities and, you
know, I was always a bit of a strange

kid and it was probably because,
you know, I could, I had a lot of

emotional awareness for other people.

But struggled to communicate
it because of my open throat.

Mm-hmm.

So, um, yeah, I think that
that's always shown up.

I've always gotten on with, uh, like
I ha I do have like a, a long term

group of male friends, but I, in
general with like newer friendships, I

get along with women easier than men.

And I feel like that's just because men.

In general can be more disconnected
from their, their emotions.

So I've, because I, the way
I speak and think so much is

through emotions and feelings.

I struggle to have a conversation
with someone where, That's never

gonna come up or be talked about.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

So someone who's more, generally speaking,
women have been more enc, not a women, but

generally speaking, women be encouraged
to understand their emotions better.

I find it easier to communicate with
them and form friendships and things.

Because, because, yeah, it's.

It's, yes.

It's part of like,

Brandi Healy: it's just a more common,
yeah, it's a more common part of

like, again, as a generalization.

Yeah.

Kind of a, yeah, like what women
talk about, whether it's to each

other or, you know, trying to engage.

The men in their life
to talk about emotions.

So yes, I, I, I could see that for sure.

I think that's one of the things that
makes you, you know, again, like a really

supportive reader and supportive to your
clients is like really noticing that as.

Like an area of strength to be able
to hold space for others' emotions.

Yeah.

But also being able to have some things
in your, in your back pocket to really

understand what's mine and what's other
people's and like do you have things that

you lean on to kind of whether to discern
if you're taking on other people's stuff

or maybe to kind of move through and
clear to just connect back with yourself.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Oh, like when I, yeah, yeah.

Yes.

Funerals.

Funerals are bad.

Um, yeah, basically like being
around any sort of emotionally

charged thing, people being angry.

Uh, I really struggle to be around
because I just feel it so intensely.

Um.

Mm-hmm.

So that has been helpful to know,
oh, that's just like me and I

just need to like, get some space.

Uh, and let that dissipate
before I reengage again.

Yeah, that's

Brandi Healy: right.

So the other thing that I wanna look
at is you have an open sacral center,

obviously being a projector and you know,
that kind of drives our energy for work

as well as having an open root center,
and that's kind of a pressure center.

It's like our stress.

So kind of the gifts of
these two centers being open.

I have these both.

Undefined as well is that we really
teach others the, the beauty of rest

as well as when we are in our wisdom.

The ability that to show that
not everything requires a

sense of urgency behind it.

Mm-hmm.

And how connected or maybe disconnected.

Have you felt from these areas
of your design or you know,

do you feel about them now

Kyle Wood: that, I mean, this
was an interesting one because my

wife's defined in her route center.

Mm-hmm.

And it used to really annoy me that
she would be in a rush for stuff that.

Didn't need to be like in a rush
for, which is probably something I

learned over the last 10 years or so.

Because before that I'd say I
was like very, like I said, I

was very schedule orientated.

Mm-hmm.

So if something broke that or
I was not good to be around.

Mm.

So yeah, I think over time, um, so
that's been helpful to understand

cuz sometimes I'll sort of be like,
You know, what are you rushing for?

And then also understanding that
if she's stressed, I feel stressed,

but that that's not my stress.

Mm-hmm.

So that's been really helpful
to be like, why do I feel really

stressed and anxious right now?

Oh, I just need to like leave the
room and go be by myself for a bit.

And then I can come back and be
that more like calm, neutral person.

But at the moment I'm like, just
sponging up all of her stress.

Brandi Healy: Oh yeah.

My husband and I both have open root
and both of our kids have defined

root, and so I can absolutely relate.

And it's like for children that stress
can look like it was a hectic day at

school or an after school activity.

You know, like their stress looks very
different, but it still can be deeply

absorbed when you have that open.

And so it's like, usually when that comes
up in our house with our kids, it's like,

Maybe you need to go outside and hit a
bucket of baseballs or take a little bit

of a jump on the trampoline for a minute.

Yeah.

And it's, you know, movement can be
something that is so, so supportive when

people are feeling that stress to rush.

And I don't know if that's ever
something, I know that you have a,

you know, or deeply connected to your
movement practice and I don't know

if you have ever used that as a tool
when you're kind of feeling that.

Kyle Wood: No, but my wife with
the defined stress center, so she

doesn't get stressed about it.

Stressed.

I get stressed about my stress.

She's just like, I'm stressed, and
then she'll like go do yoga or go do

a record or go surfing or like, you
know, do something to process it.

I'll be like, I'm stressed that
I'm stressed this, I'm so stressed.

Yes.

I tell everyone that I'm stressed,
you know, like when I'm like really

in that like shadow is of that.

Yeah.

I'm really stressed, stressed.

Gonna be grumpy at everyone.

Like, you know, I, I, it is not
intuitive to me to be like, oh,

maybe you should go for a walk.

Right.

So that's where she can help me and be
like, Hmm, maybe you need to go for a walk

and then, uh, for, or maybe just a walk.

Get away from me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, that's what, that's what
go for a walk is, it's the

nice way of saying, right.

Get away from me.

And then, uh, and then I'll come back
and be like, oh, it feels so much better.

And I'll get the, the eye roll.

Brandi Healy: She's
like, of course you do.

Yeah.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: Oh, that's so fun.

Yeah, it is.

I find it in relationship, whether
it's personal, professional, when you

can understand those pieces of each
other's chart, it can be so, so helpful.

Mm-hmm.

Because you stop taking
things so personally.

Mm-hmm.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Yeah.

Brandi Healy: So we talked about,
I'm gonna go back to your channels.

We talked a little bit about
already your, that channel that

connects your head to your mind.

I wanna talk about the channel
that connects your identity to your

ego, competitive competitiveness.

Mm.

And so, you know, that really takes
that willpower and like lets it

into like the core of who you are.

So it's like you have this gift
of being able to like channel that

willpower, to like express who you
are to like the people around you.

And it's, this channel is
known to be like a really.

Powerful catalyst for like change for
other people that you kind of like shock

people out of ways of doing things.

So is this something that you have
noticed, whether it's in the work that

you do now, or you know, the work that
you've done in the past, like whether

it's impacting your clients or maybe
even close relationships around you.

Kyle Wood: Yeah, probably more.

I can speak to times when I was with
close relationships because, you

know, I really have to be like in,
invited in and trusted to mm-hmm.

Be able to offer those insights.

So like with my wife, it's shown up a lot
in that I've been able to help her with

like career changes and things like that.

And seeing herself differently.

Um, and then, yeah, then just like
in other friendships and things like

that, uh, yeah, because I really has
to be, it'd be interesting to do that

as, have that as like a, a manifesto
or something because you just, right.

You just like tell people like
whatever, whatever, whatever.

But, uh, not that it'd always be
received, but yeah, I'd probably, you

know, hold myself back a little bit.

Um, sometimes from that, I guess one
thing I've noticed having that channel

is that it's not always what I say, but
sometimes just my presence can have,

so it's trusting that, that sometimes
me just being there is enough to like

help someone who's, who's going through
something or is looking for that change.

Yeah, I've definitely

Brandi Healy: seen it.

In myself, like being changed by working
with you and seeing myself differently.

So thank you for

Kyle Wood: that.

Is that the one that's like you, the
channel as well about like being first?

Is that Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Brandi Healy: One.

Yeah.

You let,

Kyle Wood: yeah.

Brandi Healy: I wanted if
first like being on the cutting

Kyle Wood: edge.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When I ran bootcamps, it's like I
was the first bootcamp in the area.

Um, when I created my website,
I was like one of the first.

And so I pretty much like hate.

Social media because like any, everyone's
already doing the thing that like, you

know, I like to find those places where
those little like niches where you

can like carve out and be the first.

Mm-hmm.

Uh, and really, and then get
that like recognition, you know,

that feels really good as well.

That's fun.

Brandi Healy: It is.

Uh, so the last channel that you have
is called the channel of Marketing.

So that, like we spoke to
earlier, combines like your

intuition kind of about alerts.

Yeah.

And really plugs it into like that
drive you have to make things happen.

And so like when your heart is in what it
is that you are sharing, it's like you.

Have that power to really light it up.

And it's like you have that gift of
connecting people to opportunities

that you know are right for them.

And it's based off of having that
intuitive knowing on what is going to

be of service to the people that you
are, you know, whether it's in personal

relationships with or in your business.

So, you know, I think that we just saw
this kind of inaction not too long ago

when you launched a new, a new group offer
for, you know, your community and how,

like I watched you like use that intuition
to be like, I'm gonna do this thing

and I'm gonna put it out there, and now
these people are joining and here we go.

We're like off to the races.

And it was so, so fun to
see that like in action.

Mm-hmm.

Kyle Wood: Thanks.

Yeah, I, I think this channel,
you know, you hear the web

marketing and ev everyone wants it.

They're like, who runs a business?

Cuz I wouldn't say I'm necessarily like
very good at marketing, but that key

thing that helped me understand it was
that like, my heart has to be in it.

Like I have to, I have to believe in it.

Mm-hmm.

And that made sense.

Mm-hmm.

Because for a while there, my business
sort of reached a point where it was

doing well and I was like, oh, maybe I'll.

Sort of consult or like go in as a partner
with other people wanting to do, create a

similar model business, uh, you know, with
like a subscription and things like that.

Mm-hmm.

Uh, and, and I'll handle like
the marketing aspect and they.

They create the content and stuff
like that, and I'll take a percentage

and, you know, I was like, oh, if
I do a few of those then, you know,

like, good way to earn, earn a living.

And pretty quickly it was like, oh,
I don't care about these people's

projects as much as I care about my own.

And it was just like, mm-hmm.

Always like pulling teeth,
trying to do the work.

And, and so I ended up pulling out
of those, um, because I was like,

I just don't feel like I'm doing.

You guys justice.

Um, and also there was probably like
some indirect recognition around there.

Like I got put in more of like
a generator role instead of like

being valued just for my insight.

Right.

Um, they wanted the insight
and the implementation.

Uh, but yeah, I didn't
have the energy to as well.

So yeah.

The, the, this has been an
interesting one to experiment with.

And I think for me as well, so
there should be that element

of like, I care about it.

Mm-hmm.

And there should be an element of
like, easiness to it as well, which

there's can be a lot of resistance
around that because it's like,

you know, money not to trust it.

Right.

Money blocks around.

Yeah.

Like making money can't be easy.

Uh, things like that.

Um, or if I'm, you know, if it's
easy that I'm not trying, like I'm

not putting enough effort into it.

Yeah.

So lots of stuff there.

I think

Brandi Healy: that's like a perfect,
like segue into like this like

last piece I wanna touch on in
your chart, which is your profile.

So you know your profile is like
how you manifest your purpose

and your profile is a two four.

So this is what we're talking,
we referred to earlier.

The two is referred to
as the innate genius.

And like part of that too is that.

Things are meant to be easy.

Mm.

And you know, the things that you're
really good at, like, you might not be

able to explain why you're good at them.

And then, you know, the flip side
of of that piece is that it's also

known as like the hermit, right?

You need that time alone to kind of be
in your own energy to kind of, you know,

Find that ease and find that spaciousness,
cuz that's really the space where your

gifts are really curated as when you
have that time to be in your own flow.

And it's like you kind of show it, you
know, this matches so beautifully with

being a projector is you're already
here to, to show us like, Value is

not always measured by output or work.

It's can also be measured by insight.

And it's like that too, kind of just
marries like hand in hand with that.

And so it's like, you know, it's,
it's kind of meant to be easy.

So it's been funny to see.

I know we've had chats about, like,
I've noticed you make things harder

than they need to be sometimes.

And that's, and I tease you a bit and
I'm like, remember, you're the innate

genius, and you're like, shut up.

But also, thank you.

Kyle Wood: Yep.

That's true.

That's true.

Brandi Healy: It's like it's, you know,
if it's, if it feels like a strain,

if it feels like a struggle, then it's
really about, you know, can you assess

and use your authority to feel like it?

Does that still feel like
an alignment for you?

Mm, mm-hmm.

Kyle Wood: Yeah, that's a

Brandi Healy: good one.

And so this part of this part of
your design link, do you notice,

have you noticed the things that
you've been the most successful

did come from places of ease?

Kyle Wood: Yeah, pretty much.

Uh, yeah.

Uh, probably kind of
annoying to other people.

Again, it's just one that annoys my wife a
lot, how, and how quickly I can like, pick

things up as well, like pick things up and
understand like 80% of them, um mm-hmm.

To me, it's, it could be a very
like, frustrating thing because it,

again, it could be really difficult
to explain to people my process.

Right?

Uh, so yeah, so trying to work that out,
um, yeah, it can be really hard, I think.

Yeah.

So like, I'll give you examples.

So trying to, like, trying to
create courses for me for other

people is really difficult.

Mm.

Cause I really struggled to like strip
down my process because so much of

it I'm doing just like look like my,
the whole of who I am is just like

intuitively and kind of just understanding
like a lot of subtleties at once.

So trying to then explain to people
like what I'm picking up on and why

I'm choosing to do things this way and
not that way is like incredibly so.

Hard to, uh, articulate and no
matter, and then often when I write

it out or, or create a video for
it, it still doesn't feel like I'm

still not explaining this properly.

Mm-hmm.

So I think that's why I do work really
well as, as like a coach and why, you

know, I did really well as a trainer
and things for years because I wasn't

trying to create a system for someone.

I was just helping them in the moment.

And that's where I like shine.

Um, yep.

Because in the moment I'll, I'll
be able to explain enough to help

them get through to the next thing.

Brandi Healy: Well, cuz you can
tap into that intuitive knowing of

your spleen and also know the right
thing to say in that right moment.

Yeah.

So that makes a lot of sense.

The second part of your profile,
which is, you know, supposed to be

what is less conscious, is the four.

And that is known as being a
powerful relationship builder.

And you know where I see that show
up, you know, in the time that

I've known you is, you know how.

Dedicated you are as a husband
and as a father, but also in your

community with what you did, building
boot camps in that area, as well

as how you volunteer and serve your
community as a volunteer firefighter.

It's just.

So cool to see like how that
shows up in your life and you

know, how invested you are.

Both, you know, with your time
and your energy in those places.

And it's not, you know, and you've
built your business around that.

Like those are your priorities and the
way that you structured your business

is so that it allows you space.

So that you're still able to show up
in those other places, which is just

really, it's very inspiring to watch.

Like again, as a projector, it's like
you show others what is possible.

Mm.

So I think that that's really fun.

Thanks.

So does that feel like something
that was always something

that came naturally to you?

Or do you think that, you know, with
time maybe you've become better at

Kyle Wood: it?

That fourth line?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh, like, yeah, when I look back at
like, jobs, like every, everything came

through my network, like people I knew.

And it was really interesting
to learn that and be like, oh,

when I'm doing all these, like.

You know, strategic, you know, sort
of things that aren't, don't really

have to do anything, don't really
have anything to do with people.

Mm-hmm.

That's when I don't see any success
because uh, you know, like trying

some convoluted marketing strategy or
something like that and for me, so that

was really helpful to learn that and
again, to, to be like, okay, that's

actually an area since having kids.

That I've not been investing much time in
because you know, your kids are, like I

said, kids and family are very important
to me too, but I've been neglecting some

of those other relationships and, and
doing things like, you know, the group

we've got of other human design readers
that we catch up with and stuff like that.

Mm-hmm.

That's something that I used
to just very naturally do.

Seek out peers, get together,
like peer support groups.

Uh, yeah, that's, yeah.

Seek out mentors and.

And I did it without really thinking about
it, like I was doing it intentionally.

But now I find because my life is just
like more full, so, That I do need to

like be a bit more intentional about that.

And also

Brandi Healy: also, well it's,
it's also the balance of the two

parts of your profile, right?

It's that need to hermit Oh God,
as well as that need to connect.

Kyle Wood: So it's so annoying.

Got all these dichotomies in my design.

It's like, ugh.

But yeah.

Yes, yes.

And, and to trust that, cuz now it's
like, oh, now I'm being more intentional

about catching up with people, but I
need to make sure that doesn't override.

Those times when I'm like,
oh, I just need space.

And I, and I'm mm-hmm.

And it's good.

Cause I'll just say that I
can say that to my wife now.

I just feel like, yeah, I'm really
hermiting at the moment and that's pretty

much like, don't ask me to like, go out
and see any people or do like any, you

know, just, I like, need that time alone.

Um, or, you know, I'm just
gonna like, take myself off for

the afternoon and, and Yeah.

Uh, and it's helpful for me to have
that language to be able to say

that to her and not make myself.

Feel wrong.

Mm-hmm.

Or for like not being
available to other people.

Uh, cuz yeah, I could really
make myself feel guilty about

that, like setting that boundary

Brandi Healy: For sure.

And I think that for, you know, most
people with open sacral centers or

if you're single definition or you
know, there's a lot of different

elements of, of one's design that.

Really crave that need to be in
their own energy and to be able to.

Kind of like have the confidence to
ask for it and to communicate it and

to say like, I do need this time alone.

Mm-hmm.

Can be really, really hard.

Yeah.

But I think, you know, once that
conversation is open, I think it

becomes a lot easier and there's
a lot more latitude for like

understanding and especially like.

Like, whether it's business for,
you know, personal partnerships.

Like when once people get that
and it's like, oh, it's a two-way

street, I can ask for that too.

Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Which is, which also feels really good.

Yeah.

This was so fun.

Kyle Wood: I hope it wasn't too long.

You, you really like pulled
everything outta my chart there.

It was.

It was, I know.

Brandi Healy: Sorry.

I like went for it.

Kyle Wood: That's a good
example of like what it's like.

To, um, to work with you,
so, yeah, that's good.

Brandi Healy: Right.

So, you know, we'll talk more, not only
about, you know, our own designs in the

future, but I think, you know, as we bring
on guests, this is kind of what you can

expect is how we'll chat about, you know,
people's designs and how they live it.

Which, you know, I'm really looking
forward to, and maybe we'll have a future

episode where we talk about a partnership
chart and maybe how, you know, our charts

come together and, and how we work.

Kyle Wood: Mm-hmm.

Which might be cool.

Yeah, it might be interesting
for people to, yeah.

Hear more about like, what I've
touched on today about how, you

know, like your spouse relationship's
a pretty big relationship.

Mm-hmm.

So like understanding where you have
those like open centers and undefined

centers and defined and how that can,
that can cause communication issues.

It's really, I think it's really helpful.

So yeah, let's, um, Yeah,
let's see where we go.

And then also, of course, like
ties to effective business.

Really helpful too.

Absolutely.

Brandi Healy: Well, thank you for
being such a wonderful participate

participant in the reading today.

Thanks for letting me pick you

Kyle Wood: apart.

Well, I feel, yeah.

Super seen and recognized, so

Brandi Healy: Excellent.

All right, well, we'll chat again soon.