Well Designed: A Human Design Podcast

Brandi Healy: hello,
welcome to Well-Designed.

I'm here with my co-host, Kyle Wood.

How are you?

Kyle Wood: Hello.

Hello.

Uh, I am doing well, although I.

Have identified as we were speaking
just before we started recording that.

I cannot remember anyone's
name today for some reason.

So . So as long as just podcasts,
we don't actually have to talk

about people and everyone's happy.

If I just say that person or them,
uh, then we, we will be all good.

Brandi Healy: Yeah, so I will hold
back any questions relating to

people's names that are in films

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: to save you from
that embarrassment on recording.

Kyle Wood: even films.

I was, I was struggling to
get your name out of my mouth

before and it's like, right.

It's literally here on my
screen as I like look at you.

It says Brandy Healy.

And I just, yeah, it was just
so, it's just one of those days.

Brandi Healy: It happens.

It happens.

So speaking of fears, today we are
kind of continuing our series, talking

about the energy sensors in human
design, and today we're going to

be talking about the spleen, which.

to me.

I don't know what your thoughts were
when you first heard about this energy.

I was like the spleen.

How?

It's weird.

Like so

Kyle Wood: my, authority, so it's, yeah,
it's like I have a splenic authority.

Like, what does that, what does that mean?

Brandi Healy: Yeah.

Like what does that even mean?

Yeah.

Even when you're like learning in your
biology, you're like a spleen who needs a

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: isn't that one of those
organs you could remove and just

Kyle Wood: Yeah, you're still

Brandi Healy: function in life?

Yeah, I don't think so.

I don't think so.

So in human design, when you look at
the body graph, if we are looking at

the chart, it is on the left hand side
and it is the triangle that is pointing

towards the center of the chart.

The point of the triangle is pointing
to the right and our spleen governs

Our instincts, our intuition.

It also governs fear, our fears
and kind of our sense of survival.

So, you know, depending
on if this center is.

Shaded in that will mean that
you have the center defined.

And if the center is white, that means you
will have the center undefined or open.

And again, we won't go into the
nuance too much here and we'll use

the terms kind of interchangeably.

So similar to our last conversation,
Kyle and I actually have the

opposite.

I have an undefined spleen.

And Kyle has a defined

spleen, so I'm gonna just kind of kick
it off and chat a little bit about,

you know, the undefined spleen.

So about 45% of people
have this center undefined.

So

Kyle Wood: a, it's like another 50 50 and

Brandi Healy: yeah.

So, you know,

Kyle Wood: yeah.

Yep.

Brandi Healy: yeah, it's, it's pretty

close.

It's pretty close.

And.

Yeah, exactly So you probably know
someone that has it, the opposite

of you and the same as
you, so not terribly rare.

Um, so you know, for those of us that
have the center open or undefined,

we tend to be really sensitive to
the fears of others and kind of

sensitive to The wellbeing of others.

And one of the lessons that we are
really here to learn through this

center is the lesson of learning to
let things go that no longer serve us.

And like most of the lessons that are
undefined centers have to teach us.

This is an area of our biggest learning,
but it's also an area that we are here

to kind of serve others with and teach
other people this gift of letting go.

So when I kind of learned about that,
that was something that was, that felt

really good because you know, that's
what oftentimes I find that I spend a

lot of time with my coaching clients
on is kind of assessing What are things

in their life that are draining their
energy, whether it's emotionally,

energetically, you know, time-wise and
you know, coming up with ways to either

delegate those things out, maybe pull
out of them, or, you know, transmute

what that can look like, set boundaries
around it so that they are less draining

or, you know, releasing them entirely.

So that was something that was
really You know, cool to learn, um,

Kyle Wood: Well, I'll just say

Brandi Healy: for those

Kyle Wood: like you, that's something I
noticed you do with with me as well, even

in our conversations that you'll often
hone into, like looking at that like

bigger picture of my wellbeing of like
what's been going on rather than like

whatever thing I'm just like stuck on.

You're able to like see what might
be actually causing that in like

yeah, bigger picture is pretty cool.

Brandi Healy: Thanks.

Yeah.

And, and it's like, and again, you
know, we look at these as like, these

are kind of our superpowers, right?

And oftentimes, like I always joke it's
like, use these for good, not evil.

And what I mean by that is like a lot
of times we try to use our own gifts

on ourselves and they don't really work

that way.

like, Super easy for me to be
like, Kyle, you have a lot on your

plate.

Maybe you should look at
like not doing whatever.

But on the flip side of that, like back
at the ranch, I'm having migraines because

like I'm not resting So you know, with
that, with each of these centers, right?

There is this shadow element
and there's this wisdom element.

So When we are in the shadow of our
undefined or our open spleen, we can feel

very overwhelmed by other people's fears.

And so this is something that I
resonate with very deeply and it's,

you know, this fear of what other
people are gonna say, what other

people are going to think, and when.

I really hone into like, what is that?

It's like oftentimes those are things
that other people are afraid of, right?

They're afraid of looking foolish.

They're afraid of making a mistake.

They're afraid of, you
know, fill in the blank.

And, you know, our open centers
really amplify what we are taking in.

So if you find yourself
Feeling really fearful.

If you have the center undefined, it
can be super useful to just ask yourself

like, is this actually my fear or is it
another person's fear that I'm amplifying?

And again, this can be Way
easier when you're working with

somebody else than for ourselves.

But once you start to, or you know,
working with another person and kind of

talking them through or having them talk
you through, like, this is something I

work with my therapist on and you know,
it's been really helpful over the last

few years to be able to identify and say
Oh, I'm actually like amplifying this kind

of cultural fear that I was raised with

and it's actually not something
I am really afraid of more so

it is like a systematic belief.

I was raised to.

Believe in,

Kyle Wood: Yeah,

Brandi Healy: but I don't really
think it's true or it's not

really true for me anymore.

It's this story I've told myself, and
there might be people in my life that

still hold onto this truth and hold onto
this fear, but it's not actually mine.

And I think,

oh yeah, please.

Kyle Wood: because.

Of like conditioning,
which is this concept.

Brandi Healy: Mm-hmm.

Kyle Wood: be conditioned
through our open centers.

So often, I guess we talk about with
human design, you're being impacted

by the people you're around, but
this is something that can happen.

What you're saying is this is something
that can happen, have happened a long

time ago, that you're still holding
onto this set of like fears and so

it's still impacting you today even
when you're not around those people.

Is that right?

Brandi Healy: Yes.

So, and

it's like even when you're not
around those people, but again,

it's just like you're holding onto
that story that that Experience

or that thing is something to be

feared.

Um, even though like, again,
it's no longer true for you.

So, you know, that can
be something to look on.

Or, you know, even things like, you
know, familially, maybe there were things

in your family that were not allowed.

So like, we'll use like a really,
you know, generic example of like

You know, you weren't allowed
to eat in, in the living room

or something.

And like you have this like fear of
eating in the living room as an adult when

like maybe really you don't give a shit.

Like,

it was always like, as a kid, your Dr.

Your dream to eat in front of
the television and now you're

like, Hey, wait a minute.

I can actually eat in front of
the television and I don't really

care about eating on my sofa.

You know, that's just like a
very superficial example of that.

But, you know, really starting to
under when you can kind of understand

maybe where these fears come from and
start to question whether again, you're

amplifying Something outside of you, a
fear that comes outside of you or one

that comes in from your, from yourself.

And I think, you know, the last three
years have been you know, a very like

fearful climate in the world with

everything that went on with C O V I D.

And I think that, you know, there were a
lot of instances where things have got,

you know, Very amplified and I, regardless
of how people felt about certain

situations, you know, it was like a very

volatile

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Yeah.

Brandi Healy: So, you know, that was
like a tricky time to really determine

like, you know, what are my concerns
versus what am I amplifying that

I'm absorbing and taking in through,

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

And

Brandi Healy: know, the media that
I consume and the people that I

talk to, um, and things like that.

Kyle Wood: yeah, with like 45% of the
world absorbing and reflecting and

amplifying the current fears that are
going around, yeah, yeah, you can really,

well, we, we all saw what happened.

like, yeah.

You can

Brandi Healy: Yeah, exactly.

. It's kind kind

of a shit show.

Kyle Wood: that actually is a good spot
for one of the questions I had for you.

So what's a practice you do or you have
to let go when you notice you're holding

onto those fears that aren't yours?

Brandi Healy: So,

you know, I think that something like,
again, like I have people that are

close to me that I could go to to talk
things through and you know, like.

There's that saying like, it
takes a village to raise a child.

Well, it's like I'm still that child and I
have my village I have my village, right?

It's like I have my partner, I
have my therapist, I have a few

very close friends that I go to.

I have you, you know, that like
these sounding boards that I

have in my life that can kind
of help bring me back to myself.

And I think, you know, really also kind
of using Using my authority to like know

for myself like, is this actually mine?

you know,

take a beat.

If, if it's something that's like
a, you know, a fear that is spanning

like a lot of time it's like, is this
actually something that I am afraid of?

Or is it something that I am just
amplifying that's outside of me?

And usually if I can allow that,
that emotional wave to kind of

settle, I can really see like whether
it's a work situation, a familial

situation, a societal situation.

It's like, oh no, like When I let
my emotions settle down and I really

tap into like, what's going on, it's
like I'm not actually scared of that.

Like I'm amplifying

someone else's story.

Kyle Wood: Yep.

Brandi Healy: Um, and I think it's really
being able to kind of like, just like

with the emotions, kind of be able to sit
with those fears, um, and like observe

them and kind of move through them.

Um, so I find that those things, you know,
tend to be, tend to be really helpful.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Yeah.

That's so cool.

Brandi Healy: So

Kyle Wood: that's

Brandi Healy: I, I, you know, the,
the other big shadow element that

can come with this as well is holding
onto things longer than are healthy

or right for you.

Kyle Wood: so like jobs

Brandi Healy: Um,

Kyle Wood: and stuff like

Brandi Healy: relationships.

Ways of doing things.

So it's just

kind of like that thought process of
like, this is how it's always been

done, so we're just going to do it.

And it's kind of like, you know that
saying it's the devil, you know?

Right.

It's like, it might not be great, but
it's familiar, so we'll just kind of hang

out here or, so this has been a big one
for me, you know, in the last Uh, five

years really, you know, being able to
identify jobs, relationships, um, as you

know, Um, I have really evolved to create
more space and more flow in my life.

Um, and it, it's challenging
because, you know, sometimes like

our misery and our discomfort is
like this warm co blanket that we,

that we wrap ourselves up in.

And, you know, even though it's
uncomfortable, we choose to stay

there because it feels safer.

Than the unknown.

And again, this is another
opportunity where it's important

to be able to use your authority to
know what's worth holding onto and

what maybe is time to let go of.

And I think also based off
of our type, you know, asking

ourselves, does this situation.

Make me feel in alignment.

So like for me it's like, do I feel
successful in this space as a projector?

Do I feel deeply seen and
valued for what I contribute?

Or on the flip side of that,
it's like, do I feel bitter?

You know?

So I think knowing, you know, tapping
into your type and what your signature and

your not self is, can be a good indicator
in situations where Am I just here

because it's what I know, or am I here
because it's what's in alignment for me?

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Yes.

The.

, that's, I mean, that's always the
thing we talk about is it's like come

back to, especially with those open
centers, come back to your authority.

Um, and yeah, and your signposts,
uh, can be really helpful

there as well for your type.

Brandi Healy: So just, you know, a few
other little kind of nuggets here with

this is like reminding yourself that you
know, when you're in that state of fear,

Whether it's your own or you're amplifying
someone else's, it's like we're not

meant to make decisions from that place.

So, you know, leaning into your
authority is really important and you

know, when we're in our wisdom of this
center, you know, we can be really open

to change and willing to take risks.

Risks when it comes to
new ways of doing things.

And we know when to step
out of opportunities that

don't feel right for us.

And because we're also sensitive
to other people's wellbeing, we can

really tell when things are going to
be Emotionally, mentally, spiritually

enriching for us and when they're not.

So, you know, these are all kind of,
you know, things to notice, like.

when I am, you know, in the
space of my wisdom, like these

things come to me with ease.

And when you're feeling kind of stuck
and sticky in these places, that's,

you know, an opportunity for you to
just start to trust that, you know, you

can sit with these challenging moments
and move through them and really learn

from them to kind of move past them.

Kyle Wood: Uh, the other thing I had
down, which I didn't know if you wanted to

speak to, especially with your background
as a yoga instructor, was . That there's

something about when you're in your
wisdom, uh, with having an open spleen

or undefined spleen about that you're
here to really help others feel good,

Brandi Healy: Mm-hmm.

Kyle Wood: and that should tie
into your marketing as well, like,

that you're focused on perhaps
not the the what you do, but like

how they're gonna feel afterwards.

Has, has that shown up for you?

Brandi Healy: Yeah, absolutely.

And I think not only is my work as a
yoga instructor, but also as a coach

and you know, in my professional
life as well, it's like I do a

lot of coaching in that space.

Also,

and it's interesting because it's like,
you know, before finding human design, I

was really into strength-based leadership.

And so it was about helping people
identify what they were good at

and leaning into that.

And like that's, you know,
very much what human designed.

It's just, you know, we're talking
about different gifts, right?

And so me, the intention is always, you
know, in a yoga class, it's like when

that person walks out, I want them to
always feel better when they're walking

out than they did when they're coming in.

And the same goes for a client in a
coaching conversation or somebody that

you know has worked for me in the past.

It's like when we have a conversation,
a developmental conversation, it's

like I always want that person
to feel uplifted and empowered.

Versus broken down because we've all had
a conversation where somebody, whether

it was a boss, a parent, and you know,
maybe we made a mistake or we're learning

something new and you just feel really
helpless, like, I'm never gonna get it.

And then we've had that conversation,
you know, another kind of conversation

with someone where they're, where
you're like, I can't do it yet,

but like I will be able to do it.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Yeah.

Brandi Healy: So that's kind of how
I feel like it's shown up for me.

Kyle Wood: I always feel good
after talking to you as well, so

Brandi Healy: Val, I feel validated.

Thank you,

Kyle Wood: That's good.

Brandi Healy: So do you wanna chat
with us a bit about the define spleen?

And again, as Kyle mentioned,
you know, this is his authority.

So not only is this center dictates,
you know, how he makes his decisions.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

I probably don't spend enough time
or pay enough attention to my other

defined centers be because this one,
because you know, like as we just

spoke about, More impacting of other
people through those defined centers.

But it'll definitely be something
interesting to explore down the track.

But with my spleen, I do pay
attention to that one because

it's, um, governed in my authority.

So we spoke before about like fear.

I mean, fear still plays a big
part with having a defined.

center.

But, um, a big part of it is intuition.

It's like in the moment knowing, so
also we've spoken in an earlier episode

about like, perhaps the more masculine
way of saying this, it's like instinct,

although quite like the feeling of intu
intuition, and I like the phrase intuitive

knowing, because that's often what it is.

It's like, it's a knowing.

It's not like a.

I'm getting a hit in this direction.

It's like a, no.

This is something that's just like being
downloaded into me that I know to be true.

And I don't know why I know this to
be true . I don't know how to explain

it to other people why it's true.

Uh, but it's, this is the truth.

Um, and this is what it's telling me.

this is then what I feel like
I need to do based on, on this

new truth that's just happened.

So it's a pretty.

Brandi Healy: In, this is the word of Kyle

Kyle Wood: It's a pretty well that's,
this is my experience of it, and it is,

I think it's like a hard one for people
to, to wrap their head around, especially

if you haven't spent time exploring it.

Brandi Healy: for sure.

And, and when you kind of have,
when that knowing comes to you, like

what does it feel like in your body?

Kyle Wood: Uh, it doesn't feel . , like
anything, like that's a, that's, I

think that's when I know it's, it's
that, and it's not fear or it's not

me being impacted through my stress
or emotional open stress, uh, route

or emotional centers because it,
it's like, it's got a calmness to it.

It's like a calm knowing, which could,
can then very quickly be replaced

with fear and other things, but yeah.

That's how I've learned to trust
my intuition is that it doesn't

come with like a big fanfare.

It's just like this is the thing.

Uh, and with that comes, which is of
course makes sense because whenever our

authority is directing us, it's also our
bodies are aligning, aligning to create

a sense of energy behind it as well.

So that's probably the other thing
is that there's the intuitive

knowing and then there's a desire.

A calm desire to take action straight
away and like an energetic desire.

But it's not, what I've had
to learn is it's not that.

'cause I can create a lot of
pressure from my open route.

So it's not that and from
my like defined, um, head.

So it's not that or defined mind.

So it's not that like stressy,
stressy pressure, um, Yeah.

And so because of that,
it can be easy to ignore.

It can be easy to be like, uh, that
doesn't make sense, that's not convenient.

That's, uh, you know, and to
start getting up on my head and,

and getting, getting out of it.

Brandi Healy: And so, you know, have
you noticed, like when you were saying

like when it, it's fear that comes
up in your body, like is there like a

recurrent fear that comes up for you?

Can it just be different depending
on, you know, what the decision

is that you need to make?

Kyle Wood: Uh, it's usually, it
can, it can be different, and

it, it depends on the thing, like
the, the bigger the decision,

the stronger the knowing is, and.

And so with that comes, so for
example, I'll put some examples to it.

So for example, when I was going to move,
uh, when I moved overseas for a year,

like that came to me in the shower and it
was just like, bang, I needed to do this.

And the fear didn't come straight away
because that was such a strong, I guess,

'cause it's such a big life change to
like pack everything up and move overseas.

There was . This big hit.

And then it was like, yeah,
that's, that's what I need to do.

And I spoke to Zoe about
it and she was on board.

Um, and then the fear came like
up later on the track where

it's like, what are you doing?

But for whatever reason, it was
before I even knew about human

design or, or about intuition.

had enough self-knowledge then
to be like, no, it was, this

was very, a very clear message.

And so I am going to, this is a
normal part of the process is that

I'm going to feel scared or uncertain
and to stick with that decision.

But, uh, like I, I was probably meditating
a lot fairly regularly back then as well.

So I would say that
probably did help a lot.

'cause that is one of the things that's
recommended if you have this defined,

whether it's your authority or not,
is to have some sort of practice.

That helps you quiet your mind,
whether that's walking in nature or

meditating or, um, I mean, there's
no shortage of mindfulness practices

out there these days, so, so

Brandi Healy: Cues your

Kyle Wood: able to find one play.

My friend does play-based mindfulness.

Uh, so getting into that like
flow play state, um, yeah, so.

Uh, I think that's definitely an
important practice for me, and it's

one that I'm not always consistent
with, and so that can be when I get

into trouble and, and stop hearing that
intuition is when I am not taking that

time out by myself, but I'm just like,

Brandi Healy: Hmm.

Kyle Wood: in the moment, and then it's
like the, it just goes, the voice goes.

So, uh, yeah, it's, it
is an important one.

Brandi Healy: So what are some
things that, for others that have

this center defined, they might
be on the lookout, you know, that

might take them in their shadow.

Kyle Wood: Um, I think disregarding
the idea that there is an intuition.

So,

um, and then like with all like authority
type things, it's like trying to make

all your decisions with your mind.

So if you're spending a lot of time up in
your head and you're not doing any kind

of, I mean, I'll say embodiment practice.

But I also want to speak to any, like
men who are listening to this who

might not be like, familiar with that.

Um, so, you know, even just like
doing a workout, doing a workout,

not listening to a podcast or like,
music's usually fine, but, um, doing a

workout without distractions, that just
lets you like, get back to yourself.

Uh, it was something I heard someone say
the other day, like, travel, and I was

like, yeah, that's, that is a big one.

I.

Um, as well, so like new

locations can often, because
I guess I'm disconnecting from

the usual things that impact me.

It, it allows me to like, reconnect
with myself, uh, in a stronger way.

And so that can be really helpful too.

Uh, for me.

Water.

So like swimming, being in
the ocean, showers, baths,

like that's all really good.

Um, quiet moments, especially with kids.

Like sometimes you shower
is your only when that

Brandi Healy: Oh Yeah.

It's your alone time,

Kyle Wood: like you're alone time, so,
so sometimes it's early time when it's

quiet enough for your like, intuition
to be like, hello, I'm still here.

I have something to say.

Brandi Healy: Well, it was funny, I
was going to mention that when you were

like, oh, when I had this intuitive
hit to go overseas, I was in the

shower and it was like probably at
that point in your life that was, may

have been like one of your quiet times,

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Yeah.

Brandi Healy: And, and that's, it's
interesting 'cause a lot of people that

have this type of intuition and other
parts of their design, they get these

hits like, You know, people often say
it came to be in the shower because

like, we don't have our phone in there,

you know, nobody's talking to

us hopefully, or you know, as long as
you don't have children pounding on the

door or you know, somebody else that
needs to go to the bathroom at that time.

But, you know, when we really think about
like how we're kind of hardwired all

the time to like be connected to others.

Sometimes like that shower might be your

only alone time.

So really noticing, you know, especially
for those of you that have this as

your authority or you know, even if
you just have a center defined like

that alone, time is critical to allow
you to develop some practices that

help you tap into that authority.

You know, my son my 13 year old
son has this authority as well.

And so one of the things that I notice
for him when he gets kind of in these

fear-based, these fear-based states, so he
is a very sweet and compassionate person.

And like sometimes he'll come in to
our bedroom and be like, I can't sleep.

And I'm like, what's going on?

And he's like, I am thinking about
the war in Ukraine, and I'm like,

oh, blood, you know, and it's,
it, it just like can overtake

him to the point again where it
disrupts him and he can't sleep.

And it's like, or even when I ask
him a question about something and he

gives me an immediate response for me
being a wait for clarity authority,

sometimes I wanna ask him, are you sure?

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Brandi Healy: but it's really
my job to get out of the way.

And, and even if it's something that
I can't honor for whatever reason,

I have to, at, at minimum validate
like, Hey, I get that and validate

that that's the right choice for you.

Unfortunately, we can't do
it because of X, Y, or Z

and really try to catch myself
when I am asking, are you sure?

Or if he gives me an answer.

And I'm like, why?

And of course you're gonna ask, I'm
gonna, as a parent, you're gonna

ask why for things around like
safety or like, who's with you?

Like, those are like very normal things.

But if it comes down to like we're shoe
shopping I'm like, you know, or you

know, right now we're talking about where
he's going to go to school next year.

And he is like, has this, you know,
when we were talked about it, he's

like, no, I wanna go to this school.

And it was really easy for me to
wanna start to like Pick and prod.

But really when it came down to it,
I wanted to make sure that like his

experience was really good and like I
really wanted to honor and trust this

knowing that he had around, you know,
what that decision felt like to him.

Fortunately, it was more convenient
for us, so I'm like all for it.

didn't have to break.

Didn't have to break his little
harder on that one, but you know.

Again, like it can be helpful to also
understand who in your life, you know, has

these centers that are similar to yours.

Who in your life has these centers
that are different than yours?

And, you know, we haven't met
for these last two episodes

to be tied around authority.

However,

they have just you know,

Kyle Wood: out.

Yeah.

Brandi Healy: that it just
kind of panned out that way.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

The fear thing is . Is a big one,
and I, I can get stuck in there.

I think it helps that I, I don't
have a defined mind, so like, I'm

Brandi Healy: do have a defined mind,

Kyle Wood: It helps that
I do have a defined mind.

It don't have an undefined mind,
so I'm not getting like other,

I'm pretty consistent about my
own ideas about things, so I, so

it's not, I can imagine if you had
that, it would be easy to get like

Other people's ideas in it and then
get like stuck on a fear thing.

I definitely, I definitely still feel
fear and have to like work through that.

Um, and I can definitely be
in my shadow there around not.

Perhaps focusing on the right
things because of, because of fear.

But I feel like probably running
my own business for so long has

been really helpful with that.

And like keeping that in check of,
like understanding like when am I

just operating out of that, like
reactionary fear and when, when is

it actually now I said that out loud.

Uh, I was gonna say something else.

Speaking to the fear
aspect to how it connects.

No, it's not coming back to me.

Uh, so I would say the, the biggest thing
I get stuck in my shadow around with

having a defined spleen is trying to use
my defined head and my defined mind, which

a disconnected from the rest of my body.

No channel of connections
to try and solve everything.

And I was really taught from a
young age that that was how you make

decisions is like from that place.

Brandi Healy: Use your head.

Kyle Wood: Did very well at school in
sciences and maths for that reason.

Always loved doing like drama and music
and things like that, but always relied

on my mind to, to learn a lot of that.

To learn a lot of the stuff that
was safe with its rigid answers.

Uh, and so that's been like a
deconditioning process of like becoming

an adult and something since I've learned
human design that I've really had to

be aware of, of like, oh, I got it.

I need to like drop back down
out of my mind into my body.

'cause that's where the wisdom is.

Brandi Healy: Have there, can you think
of like a time maybe in the past where you

made a, made decisions that were guided
by fear versus like really being in the

wisdom of like your intuitive knowing.

Kyle Wood: Oh, probably
all the all the time.

Uh, it's hard to say.

It's little

I think like throw mo , fear of
missing out is like a big one

that often plays into stuff.

So sometimes I'll like commit to, um, to
doing something because I think . Because

I have a fear around like, what will
be thought of me if I, if I don't.

So rather than like listening to my
intuitive knowing that might be like,

you need to rest or you actually need
to go over here and do this thing.

So I can't think of anything
specific off the top of my head

with this one right now.

But that's, that's generally what it is.

It's like, um, yeah, a fear, either
a fear of missing out or fear of

like letting down other people.

that will then override my
intuition, but I feel I'm getting

a lot better, better at this.

My wife has the same authority,
so we've really been trying to

support each other with this to
like listen to that and respect that

and not like you do with your son.

Like, not question that.

Uh, I know, you know, sometimes
I'll get like a vi, I'll get

a intuitive knowing on people.

Brandi Healy: Mm, mm-hmm.

Kyle Wood: to distrust that.

So really bringing that back
to, yeah, you can trust that.

And if you feel like even if
everybody else likes this person

Brandi Healy: you don't

have to

Kyle Wood: says, yeah, like if I'm
getting a hit on them, then, um, and

Zoe to like tease me a bit about it.

Uh, about when I'd have this reaction
to people, oh, it's just 'cause da,

da da, it's just 'cause da, da da.

But now, yeah, I don't question it.

It's like, no.

And same thing

Brandi Healy: I feel flattered.

I, I,

Kyle Wood: Sometimes I just get a

Brandi Healy: passed the vibe checked.

Kyle Wood: Oh yeah.

Well you had, you were the opposite.

You are like immediately
like, I like this person.

Um, and I want to get to know them better.

And so trusting that, so that's
a big, big part of it too.

Like you just relationships
and interacting with people.

Uh, meeting.

You know, we, we have kids, you
meet like lots of other parents.

So it's like really helpful for
knowing like, which parents should I

like, am I gonna make an, an effort
with, to connect with, you know,

having that fourth line with it, like
those connections really important.

You can really use my intuition
to guide me there yeah, not get

stuck in the the fear thing.

Brandi Healy: That's awesome.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

I dunno if I have anything, any
more to share on having that.

Uh, I think people could go back
to my, the reading you did on me

episode three if they wanted to.

I'll do a show link in the show
notes, uh, where I talk a bit more

about, we talk about my authority
then as well, how the shows up as

an authority if they're curious, if
they've also got the splenic authority.

Brandi Healy: And I think this gave
me an idea for later down the line,

we can have a follow up episode that
talks more about fears because in your

spleen or in every energy center, there
are different numbers, which are gates.

And in the spleen specifically, each of
those gates represents a different fear.

So if you have some of those
shaded in, um, you know, those

correlates to, to different fears.

Fears.

But since today we're just talking
about the energy center itself, we

just wanna plant a, a fearful seed

out there of like, something to maybe
talk about, uh, at a later date.

Kyle Wood: Yeah.

Cool.

I hope that was helpful to everyone
listening and, uh, we'll be back.

I think up next we are organizing some
more guests to be on the show, but

we'll also be back, we'll finish off
this series of, um, on the centers

mingled in between the other ones.

Uh, and if we haven't done some of
your centers you wanna learn about, you

can listen to the overview we episode
we did on centers as well, which I

also early link to on the show notes.

Cool.

Brandi Healy: Thanks, so much, Kyle.

Kyle Wood: Brandy.

That's good talking to you as always.